Lynskey Review Number Deux

I've had more time on the bike and thought I should post a follow up. I very much love the bike, and could really not be happier w/ it!

The only complaint I have with it, which I mentioned previously, is that while standing and climbing steep sections, I do have to shift my weight back just a bit so that the rear tire doesn't skip and bounce. I've replaced my rear tire to a new 2.25 Schwable RR, that I run at 20 psi tubeless and it still skips around when standing up.  But that is really the only complaint I have now.

I've also continued to experience one other problem, but I don't think it's the bike fault. I've replaced the old crank, a Shimano XT from circa 1200 BC, w/ a XT 770, but continue to have problems w/ dropping the chain and occasional chain suck.  Not sure why this happening, but hopefully it should not not be an issue soon as I am going single speed!

I just remembered another issue I had.  I broke my pricey Ritchey Superlogic post. The fairly new post snapped right at the post clamp.  Clean brake.  I should point out I only weight 145 lbs, and I know for a fact I did not have that clamp overtightened!  I was not happy.  Lesson learned though.  27.2 is a little too skinny to buy carbon.  I will be ordering a Thompson Masterpiece to replace it.

My likes of the bike in the previous review have been reinforced.   My two favorite thing about the bike is how comfortable the bike is.  And not just for a hard tail!   The ti is really comfortable and truly absorbs the harsh hit from the ground.  I almost always ride the fork locked out and am contemplating buying a rigid fork at some point for it. And that is for a guy who has ridden full susp. bikes all his life and has low tolerance for things that are not comfortable!  I have found no flex in the bike when pedaling and am glad I went w/ the Ridgeline as I think the Pro model for me would have been overkill since I cannot bend this frame.

The best feature though is how quick handling it is.  I know we are in era of slack head tubes for 29ers, but the Lynskey has what to me is the right HA at 70.5.  This really helps to get this bike around the corners quickly and with out issues.  Tight and twisty trails are a real pleasure and the bike flies through it!  I used to have a hard time keeping up w/ this very good rider I ride w/ (you know, one of those motorcycle guys who know how to push two wheels through a corner), especially on the Scott.  On the Lynskey though, I find I have to slow down to not run into him at the exit of the turns!  The bike is fast and maneuverable.

I have also gotten comfortable throwing the bike over stumps, around techy terrain, and off jumps.   Unlike my Scott 29er, this bike is really easy to get off the ground, both front and rear.  It kinda reminds of riding a 26er, but w/ the 29er and ti features: it's fast, throwable, but never squirrely  or unstable, and quite comfortable, w/out flexing.

The Titanium is nice beyond the ride characteristics.  I have crashed a couple of times, and it's nice not having to worry about any carbon cracking, meaning I get to try to save my body instead of the bike.  I used to have three carbon worries: 1) I might crash and the bike would go flying and land sideways on some sharp rock which would crack the frame.  2) I might drop off a rock which would catch the bb area and crack the frame.  3) I could pick up a stick w/ the rear wheel which would snap the derailleur hanger and swing the derailleur around to the seat stays, which would...  It's nice to not have any of those worries anymore. I think it does allow me to enter technical sections with more confidence and momentum. Another great thing about Ti is that it cleans up very quickly and easily, and once clean, the bike looks like it just role off the showroom floor!

My hope at this time is that I can get another.  One will be set up single speed, and the other for the days I need a couple of gears.

Lynskey Ridgeline 29er Impressions

I've had some more time on the Lynskey, and I can say that it's been very good. Of course it's never exactly perfect. And in this time of polarization, it's important to acknowledge that nothing is perfect!

So before getting to the good, lets get the couple of "not so good" out of the way. There are really two complaints I have with the frame, with a third that's more a component issue.  The first gripe is the tall head tube.  I have the stem all the way down and it's still a little tall.  I am playing w/ the idea of flipping the stem and run it w/ a neg rise. It not a huge issue though.

The second problem is the balance of the bike when out of the saddle.  When seated the bike is actually really well balanced.  It steers quickly and can be railed around tight corners w/ confidence.  It climbs well when seated and only needs minor weight adjustment when attacking real steeps.  Standing up however, tends to un-weight the rear wheel just a tad too much.  Climbing over choppy terrain then results in the rear loosing some traction and bouncing a little.  In all fairness to the bike, much of this has been emphasized by my rear tire having worn through the sidewalls and no longer being tubeless.  I am therefor running it w/ a tube at 30 psi vs my normal 22 (the sidewalls are actually so bad I have several patches of gorilla tape keeping the tube from bulging out.  Time perhaps for a new rear tire.)  My Scott Scale 29er is a slightly better climber as I can just mash when standing and it will climb w/out issues.  With the Scale I actually have to make sure I un-weight the rear!

The geometry difference between the bikes is interesting here.  I often see posted online that the numbers do NOT tell the story but they do here.  The wheelbase for both bikes is the exact same length.  However the chainstays of the Scott are just slightly shorter (440mm for the Scott vs 445mm for the Lynskey). The seat tube for both is slightly different as well (73 for the Lynskey vs 72.5 for the Scott), and the BB of the Lynskey is .5 inches higher (51mm drop vs 60mm on  the Scott). And then there is the head angle: 69.5 vs 70.5 (w/ a 100 mm fork - I have mine set up to 80 mm so it's even a little steeper than that). The differences aren't huge, are fairly self explanatory, but can be felt: the BB of the Lynskey is slightly more forwards and higher, which becomes apparent when standing up by unweighting the rear wheel a bit; but the slacker seat angle means that when seated the weight of the rider is moved backwards again. The loss of traction when standing is not huge though and a rare issue that happens only if I am not paying attention. Honestly I prefer having a bike that is faster handling (70.5 degree head angle for the Lynskey vs 69.5 for the Scott), but that I have to manage a little more closely when I climb steep choppy terrain.  In twisty New England singletrack, I steer way more than I climb really steep hills. More on this below.

I need to verify these figures!

The third issue is that I have been experiencing chain suck.  I know this is not a frame issue but rather due to me being a cheap bastard and running, for now, a XT square tapered crank from the 90ies! Hey, it looked like it was in good condition! (follow up on this:  I have a new XT crank and have no chainsuck issues at all anymore)

Onto the goodness: I can confirm that the bike is a lot less harsh than my Scott Scale, which is really saying a lot, since the Scale had supposedly 5mm of travel build into the carbon seat stays.   Having gone from a full squish Specialized Sworks Epic to a hardtail, I never was really able to appreciate that 5mm of "travel".  But coming from the Scale to the Lynskey, I do greatly appreciate the Ti "absorbency" as a lot of the harsh impact of the trail are noticeably softened (and the Stan's Crest wheels also add to this).  Even jumps/drops of a foot or two are softened by the Titanium frame.

What saves my ass and back too is that 27.2 post.  Even w/ a Race Face Aluminium post, it still has enough give to let me keep my butt on saddle over rough trail chatter (there is a Ritchey Superlogic in there).  My back would not tolerate that on the Scott (see my race report on landmine linked below).  I really don't get that 34.9 post size on the Scott.  On full squish bikes maybe, but not on a hardtail (unless you're a pro pushing 600 watts)!  Had I been able to race this bike at my last mtb race at Landmine, I think it would have not been such a disaster from getting so beat up on the course.  So I can't wait to race it next year!

Yes, that is an original rug from the 50ies!

Since I am on a race note, I did get to race the Lynskey at the Providence Cx Fest Race last Sunday (don't own a cx bike), and it was a lot of fun.  The bike really corners so well, and I was able to pass a huge amount of competitors in the tight twisty turns (started in 78th position to finish 19th out of 78).

And that is where I appreciate this bike. I don't know what the trails in Tennessee are like, but it handles New England terrain really well!  As mentioned, it turns really well and without needing dramatic input to do so.  Unlike the Scott, the front end does not push out during the corners.  Turn the bars, or lean the bike, and it just turns.  I've actually eaten dirt a couple of times because the bike has caught me off guard by turning too tightly.

This bike is really nimble and that translate into it being really good in technical terrain.  It's stable over loose and bumpy terrain (for a hardtail!) and also really easy to manoeuvre over larger obstacles.  The front end comes up easily and the rear follows w/ out too much input.  It's easy to hop and jump over fallen trees or large rocks, and will go up large obstacles w/ finesse instead of brute force.  I took the bike out on a fairly technical ride several weeks back and was really surprised by how much I was actually clearing, and would have most likely not made w/ the Scott.

Well, just in case it wasn't obvious, I can say that so far I am really happy w/ the Lynskey!

I have a long term review the Lynskey review here!

Landmine Classic (and don't loose your fillings)

This race was already in the shitter before it even started!

I remembered this course as being quite "bumpy".  I had a specific memory of racing it last year and towards the end of the race starting to catch people who were on hardtails and thinking to myself how glad I was I was on a full squish and how much of an advantage it was. Not owning a full squish anymore, I was really looking forward to racing my new Lynskey on this course.  The Lynskey is a lot more comfortable than my Scott , thanks to the wonderful properties of Ti and to that 27.2 mm post diameter(more on that in the next post comparing the two bikes).    But as luck would have it, I ripped the derailleur hanger off the bike Thursday night (jra I swear!).  Bob from bikerbob.com was super cool when I texted him that night (after I finally ran out of the woods), and he had a new derailleur hanger in the mail for overnight delivery.  He was even willing to take it off his own bike!!!!  Sadly, when it arrived Saturday afternoon, it was the wrong one (Lynskey has two, and it was the other one!)  No derailleur, no Lynskey for the race...

The other problem was my rear tire's (Racing Ralph) side walls were too worn through to be able to be run tubeless.  I had a somewhat new Rocket Ron, but it was a 2.25 and would rub the left chainstay of the Scott if I ran that (still waiting for my warranty replacement from Scott!).  This left me having to the run the Ralph w/ a tube in it, and since I knew the terrain was rocky and rooty, I needed to run it a 30 psi vs the 22 I normally use when tubeless.

I did make one good decision that weekend.  I was really toying w/ racing the 50 mile marathon race but since the Lynskey was out, I didn't think my old my back could handle that distance on the Scott and therefor went with the 25 mile race.

On the way up to the race, I realized that I did not remember which exit off the highway the venue was.  Amazing, I saw Liz right next to me in her little Mini, and just followed her to the race venue.  After had I registered and was about to go warm up, the race organizers announced the last call for cat 1 racers!  It seemed way early, but being compliant, I dutifully lined up without a warm up.  Of course we stood around for quite a while and I could easily have gotten a 15 min warm up before our age group went off.

The race started and I let everyone go.  I knew it was a long race and would have plenty of distance to try to make up the slow start. It had rained the night before and though the ground had dried a little, the roots were slick.  And there many of them! I went down pretty early on when my front tire didn't clear an angled root.  A quick reminder that I needed to really unweight the front and needed to be light on the bike.  About 20 min into the race, I had locked onto a small gruppetto of the 50+ fast racers who had caught me, and at that pace we soon caught a passed a few racers in my age group.  Yet my back was taking a beating going over all those roots and rocks and I could not hold on and had to slow my pace.  I believe at this point I had passed about four guys in my category.

As I was back to riding by myself, I had some time to contemplate how great this race course was, how much fun I was actually having, and how much I had missed racing.   My last race had been the Windham World Cup back in the end of June (which didn't go so well).   Yet shortly thereafter I started to notice how tired my legs were, not only from pedaling, but also from having to constantly support my weight off the saddle to clear those roots and rocks.   If I sat, my back was taking a pounding from the terrain.

About 3/4 of the way through, I my pace had slowed down drastically and though my hr was low, my legs and back had not much more to give.  I was going to have to grind it out and hope that my pace was just fast enough to keep those I had passed off my wheel.  I was now contemplating how freaking old I was, that I was not having that much fun, and how I did not actually miss racing at all!

I was nearing the end as I could hear the PA system, but was getting caught and passed by riders, one of which was in my age group, and was struggling to find anything to give.  I also had had some chain issues earlier on, having dropped it, and when I tried to power up the last short hill, one mile from the finish, my chain snapped!   By the time I gathered the chain, figured out how many bend links I had to take out, find my extra link I had stuck at the back of my saddle back, and fumbled around putting the whole think back together, everyone in my class had passed me.  I rolled through the finish knowing I was DFL.

Liz, reminded me after the race when I shared my disappointment with being so slow,  that "well what (the hell) do you expect when the last time you raced was in June!"  It's a good point, but it still feels pretty demoralizing when it takes so much work and time to build your fitness, but so goddamn little to loose so much of it.

Quote of the day was from fellow racer, Craig, who commented after the race that he felt like a human pinball!

New Ride: Lynskey Ridgeline 29er

So I finally got my Lynskey.  I ordered it back in January and it arrived at the end of July.  Took me a while to build it up, but I have a couple of rides on it now.  Some of these pics were from before the bike was actually rideable.

I ordered the frame, the fork (a SID XX), and XT brakes from Bob at bikerbob.com.  His service was really fantastic and his prices were completely unbeatable anywhere else.  He is great to communicate w/ through email and will find you anything you need at the best online prices anywhere.  Send him an email. You wont' regret it!

The rest of parts were things I had lying around. An old old XT square taper crank and bb that still work great, XTR 970 shifters and rr derailleur from my 09 Specialized Sworks, Stans Crest wheels (I had ordered from Bob a while ago), an old WTB Rocket V ti railed saddle, a Race Face post I took off of my son's bike (I haven't told him yet; he now has the very short Titec one seen in one of the pics), Syntace F109 stem from the Sworks, and I have to finish adding the Easton Ec70 bars to it.   I will also be adding a white carbon water bottle cage from Blackburn, white Esi Chunky grips, a Ritchey WCS carbon post, and finally replacing the saddle w/ my white Specialized seat.  I haven't weight it yet since I am not done with it.  For the coming year, I am not quite sure what I am going to do w/ the drive train yet.  I might go w/ XO, possibly the new XX1 if it's not a bank breaker (yeah right!), or just go w/ a used 970 tripple xtr crank to complete what I have now.

If I have learned anything from my transition from my 26' Specialized Swork Epic to the 29' Scott Scale, is to not be quick to judge a bike, and to let myself settle into the bike before I form any lasting opinions.

I did have some first impressions though.  Three things were apparent right away with the bike.  The steeper head angle meant the bike steered significantly faster, and the front end was also easier to lift over obstacles.  The bottom bracket was higher (12.5 vs what I think is 11 on the Scale), evidence by not hitting as many rocks w/ my pedals anymore!  But w/ the higher bb, I did not feel like I was perched too high on the bike.  I could however tell that it would be much easier to go OTB w/ the Lynskey compared to my Scale.  I thankfully have not yet tested this. Another impression I had riding the bike was that it seemed heavier to launch and get up to speed or up the hills than the Scott was.  I know the bike was heavier but probably not by a huge amount (maybe two lbs).  It didn't seem like it was the weight itself that made it feel "heavy" but rather the frame angles and perhaps the material (my first time w/ Ti).  I felt like I needed to ride one gear higher than the Scott.  I'll keep on monitoring this as I get the bike fully changed to it's new parts, which should bring closer to the weight of my Scale (@22lbs).  A good call on the the bike design is the 27.2 post.  Even though I had an aluminum post in there (a set back post), I could feel it flex a bit to absorb the hits the bike was taking through rocks gardens.  This really made the bike much more comfortable when keeping my butt planted on the seat when I was getting tired (which happens way too fast lately).

On a component note, the hype around the Shimano XT brakes is well deserved!  Great one finger action brakes with lots of stopping power and not a squeak.  I was also nicely impressed w/ the Rockshox SID XX.  It's lockout is much more "serious" than that of the Reba.  It actually fully locks out the fork, unlike the Reba which always has about an inch of movement in it when locked out.  I have to experiment w/ the blow off valve more as it is a little too harsh for me right now fully locked out (I always ride my Reba locked out).  The SID is also soo much smother in it's travel than the Reba is. Last component note: I had forgotten how comfortable those damn Wtb saddles were!

The tell tale sign of any "racer bike" of course is how fast it goes around the woods.  I happen to be in area that hosts a great weekly low key mountain bike time trial.  It's a really a good course w/ a nice mixture of terrain, starting out w/ some fun swoopy and tight turns through loamy single track, then transitioning into more technical terrain with some good rock gardens.    I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to pit the Lynskey against the Scott.  I races the Lynskey two weeks ago which was my first official mountain bike ride on on it, and raced the Scott the following week.   The times were very very close.  The Scott ended up being 20 seconds faster (41 min 15 secs vs. 40 min 55 secs)  Now I know a number of things other than the bike can explain that 20 seconds. The course conditions were very similar.  For example, as I mentioned, it was the first time I ever really rode the bike on dirt (I had a short ride on the road the day before to make sure everything worked).  Also obviously, the legs will perform sightly differently from week to week.   I'll keep on alternating between the bikes and see if a trend develops though.

Follow up post on the Lynskey is here.

Riding in France, part deux!

(Part one is here)

Ride 4: 53 miles and 16000!!!! feet of climbing

Col D'Aubisque, Col du Soulor, and Col du Tourmalet.  Pretty crazy day of riding and most epic ride I have ever done.  We drove to the base of the Aubisque from Biarritz, which took about an hour and 1/2 or so.  We started at the base of the Aubisque and the goal was to follow the TDF route, which was coming through soon, to the top of the Tourmalet.  We were riding this the day before the "etape du tour" was riding all five cols. 

The Aubisque is a gorgeous ride to the top and was easier than I expected.  There is quite a bit of climbing and at times it does get steep, but the climb itself is undulating, so 10% grades are followed by quick 4% grades.  This allowed for some quick recovery. The scenery is also so amazing that I spend a lot of the time taking it in and being distracted from the "work" of climbing. It's a much "prettier" climb than the Tourmalet.  More on that later.  The Aubisque also rewarded us an amazing descent.  It was fast, it was twisty, it was on ledges, and we were flying past cars going in the same directions.   At one point we entered a tunnel that was not lit and turned into complete darkness.  You couldn't see the road or the walls or your handle bars.  The ceiling was dripping lots of water, so you knew the road was wet, though could not see it.  The pitch black lasted only a second, and then the end of the tunnel became visible and brought in some light.  That decent was really a total bike orgasm (or death if you miss a turn)!!!   My jaw hurt from smiling too hard.

We had forgotten about the Col du Soulor but it was not a very difficult climb.  Again the descent to the base and the town of Argeles Gazost was a screaming blast.  I almost ran into a camper van when cutting a blind hair pin turn.  I had to go wider than planned as a result and came very close to edge and ledge of the road.  Definitely a HR rising moment!   We stopped in Argeles and had a quick lunch w/ my Dad, who was following us by car for support.  Then it was time for some real pain!  

The Tourmalet is one mean mofo mountain.  First we had to climb out of the valley, which isn't very steep but is a steady climb all the way to Luz Saint Sauver and gains easily over a 1000 feet.  Once you leave the village of Luz Saint Sauver, the climbing starts in earnest.  And I mean earnest!  It starts at 7% with 18K to go to the top of the Tourmalet.  This  is the least steep it gets for many miles.  There are no undulating, less steep sections.  Quite the contrary because it quickly goes from 7% to  9%.  Every Kilometer has a maker that indicates what you are in for, and ticks off the mileage for you (kilometer really).  These would take more and more time to show up as the climb went on.  

Thankfully, 1/2 way up the climb is 1/2 mile at 5% and this the only respite there is (one I needed desperately), as after that, it goes right back up to 7, 8, 9 % all the way to the top. The last kilometer is a nice 10 %.  That is after 18K of non stop climbing!  

Going up the Tourmalet was not what I would call fun. The weather had turned really hot and the climb was in the blazing sun all the way to the top. Whereas I had enough energy to really enjoy and take in the scenery on the Aubisque, here I quickly ended up w/ my head down concentrating on the short strip of pavement in front of my tire, praying for the next mile marker to arrive quickly - with them taking longer and longer to arrive of course.  W/in the first mile of the climb I was already trying to shift into a higher gear, which sadly I did not have. I had brought a compact on the front, but the smallest I had in rear was a 26.  I would have sold my soul to have had one more gear.  I did finally get to the top, but it required in the last few miles a lot of screaming and swearing.  Onee there, I came very close to throwing the bike over a cliff!  I never wanted to see a bike in my life again!  I quickly got over my whining when buying a drink at the bar on the top of the col and looking at an original tdf single speed bike a rider used in 1910 to climb the Tourmalet and SEVEN other cols on a 326+ k etape (see pic below).  Of course, now I can't wait to do it again!

GOING UP THE AUBISQUE!

Ride started here and looking up at the climb to come

No comments needed!

And the climbing starts...

My brother about 1/2 way up

Getting Higher; find the water fall!

Markings for the Etape du Tour

Yeah, it's pretty!

Not there yet, maybe around the corner?

Nope, more to go...

NYC reprsenting!

Almost there!

Greeting party at the top of the Aubisque

 

Aubisque completed, now for a 30km descent! 

Down we go

Starting the Col du Soulor climb

View of the above picture from a Helicopter: don't miss that turn!

Now, THE TOURMALET!

Reads: 18km to go and 7% incline

Over the 1/2 way point!

Still going up.

Anytime now.

Digging in very deep!

Done!  and best attempt at smiling!

Actual bike ridden in the TDF and up the Tourmalet!

 Ride 5: Recovery Ride to the Pas de Roland

Here is the history around Roland.  Great ride again.  First rode to the little town of Soulaide and then to Espelette.  Espelette is know for it's Spicy Peppers which are dried by hanging on the side of the town's white washed houses. Once we got past the "Pas de Roland", we took what we thought would be a short climb around.  This however ended up being far from an easy climb, and ended  up being a Cat 2 climb, with some sections at more than 20%.  So much for an easy recovery ride.  In the reverse direction though, it would have been a 1+ mile climb w/ an avg slope of 24%!!!! My rims were starting to heat up and my brakes to fade by the time we got to the bottom. Next time, maybe I'll try to climb that!  This would be the last ride in France for the summer.

Pas the Roland starts behind the church.

Roland was here!

And the Climbing starts....

We only rode the bottom right of the hill.  Next time to the top (an HC I am sure!)

Yeah, it got steep!

Going up.

View of the Valley below and the Atlantic Ocean in the distance.

Part 1 is here!

Riding in France, Part un of deux!

Bro & I in the rolling hills on the way to the Pyrenees

I know I still have to post several race reports, especially the Windham World Cup, but sadly my life is such that my time is spend elsewhere (that and my windham performance is nothing to write about!) I will post it eventually though... most likely right about the time when really it's just a distant non important memory (shame the UCI has not renewed their contract for 2013!).

What I didn't want to let pass is my experience riding in the Pyrenees w/ my brother this summer.  It is the best cycling I have ever done.  EVER!  And that was even though it was on a freaking road bike.  The rides there were just absolutely amazing.  Someone said that the difference between driving through and riding through an area is that in the first one, you are just a mere observer, while when on the bike, you are part of what you are ridding through.  This was so true!

We were located in Biarritz, a southern French resort town on the Atlantic coast in the Basque region.  We would need to pedal out of the city but quickly entered small rural roads that would wind through the countryside and over rolling hills.  We headed south each time, because the Pyrenees were in that direction.  Every turn and hilltop would show how quickly we were coming to the mountains, and often required a stop to fully absorb the amazing scenery and to try to capture it on our phones.  This post will be mostly about those pictures, since pics ...1000 words...  Also, though I have posted many on FB, I wanted to have them all together in one post.

Ride 1

This was a short warm up .  No major climbs and just getting the legs used to being on the road bike again.  We rode to the base of the Pyrenees but did not go into them.  Scenery nothing to scoff at:

















































Ride 2

This was quite scenic.  We rode into Spain and stopped at a village called Zugarramurdi. They had the Spanish witch trials there.  Village was very cute with an old church.  Again not much climbing and skirting around the taller climbs.  Lots and lots of Spanish riders of every age out.

On the way to Zugarramurdi.  Pyrenees still in the clouds. 

Gorgeous view of the red rooftops and Atlantic Pyrenees.

Gui taking in the view w/ Zugarramurdi in the background

When we got back to Biarritz, had to stop for an xpress and take in the Atlantic Ocean!

Ride 3

This is one of my favorite downhills in the whole wide freaking world.  You ride up this crappy road to the top of a col on the French side (quite long!), and the moment you cross the border into Spain, the pavement is smooth as glass.  The road dips quickly and snakes all the way back down.  You can see through most of the hairpin turns so you can really lay off the brakes.  Sadly the road was still wet from previous rain w/ some green slime on it.  So it was not a full out balls to the wall descent like two years ago when we rode it, but still amazingly fun.  At the bottom you find the little sleepy town of Etxalar, which is really postcard quaint.  Then you have to climb back out and down the French side, which turns into a pretty hairy experience w/ many blind turns and loose broken pavement.

That is what remains of the French/Spanish border!

A look into Spain at the top of the Col

Coming into Etxalar

Etxalar church

Beautiful village of Etxalar

Part deux, which includes the Tourmalet, is here...